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How do I get into your BYU college class?

Applications are closed for the 2018 class. Applications for the 2019 class will be accepted from October 23 to October 31 2018.


I teach a Creative Writing class at my Alma Mater, Brigham Young University each year. It's always winter semester, one evening per week. It should generally be Thursday at 5:10 pm but not necessarily. The class name is English 318R/321R

My class is split into two sections

1. Workshop class: ENGL 318R Sec 002 (15 seats, by application only)
In this class, in addition to the lectures, you will be split into writing groups and will critique writing samples from the students in the class. I will also read and critique your writing. Because of the time commitment for me, I have to limit this group to 15 people. You must complete the application to have a chance at getting into this section.

2. Lecture class: ENGL 321R Sec 002
In order to allow more students to take the class, there is a section for students who will only attend the lectures. Many students in this section form their own writing groups to critique each other’s writing, but I will not be able to read and critique for these students. 

Students who want to attend the lectures only should sign up for 321R Sec 002 when registration opens. That is also the class for students who want to audit.

Students who want to attend the lectures and complete the full workshop class should see the information on how to apply here:

You may submit your application once BYU registration starts in late October. Because of high interest, we've had to limit the application window. I'll blog and tweet about the specific dates in mid October each year, and the information will be posted on the website above. You will be notified whether you were accepted before the last add/drop date. If you need an ENGL 318 credit this semester you should, in addition to applying, sign up for another section and be prepared to drop that class if your application to Brandon's class is accepted.

Can you give me some hints on how to get accepted?

Karen here. I’m one of Brandon’s assistants, and I judge the applications each year. There are a few ‘tricks’ to getting accepted, but mostly they’re just common sense. Treat this application as if you are submitting your manuscript to an editor for possible publication.

1. Fill out the application and follow the directions EXACTLY. Remember to name your files and email subject line exactly as requested in the application. If you don’t, I could reject your application without looking at it. The application window ends a week after the start date, so pay attention to when registration starts.

2. The writing sample should be the first chapter of your novel, and fit the wordcounts listed. If it’s two short, I won’t be able to get a good sense of your writing skill. If it’s too long, I will just stop in the middle and might reject your application for not following the rules. It’s best if you find a good stopping point within the wordcount limits.

Your first chapter is the hook of your novel. It may be the only thing that an editor or reader looks at. Make it something that will make me want more at the end of it.

After reading each writing sample, I’ll write a one sentence summary and give it a Good, Maybe, or No score.

3. I won’t look at the short answer questions before judging the writing samples. I generally end up with more than 15 ‘Good’ stories, and that’s when I take the short answers into account. A senior who has taken the lecture class before, has written three complete novels and listens to Writing Excuses is more likely to get accepted than a freshman who has not completed any novels or attended the lecture.

4. The essay will either confirm my previous impressions, or turn me off entirely. It’s all well and good to say that you feel your calling in life is to be an author, and that you’re committed to making a career of it, but if you haven’t put in the work of actually sitting down and completing a novel or two, then you’re not ready to get the full benefit of the workshop portion of this class. 

5. Remember that if you are not accepted into the class, it does not mean that I’m rejecting you as a person or as an author. I only have 15 slots. There have been authors who applied one year, got rejected, but took the lecture class anyway, then applied the next year and were accepted because they had a few more pluses on their application and more experience writing. I hope that you will take the lecture class no matter what your application status is, and that if your schedule permits, you apply again another year.

Good luck and good writing!